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GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard:

@eris@p.enes.lv

This is an alt of @Ukko@akko.disqordia.space

latvian, in their 25s, monogam, straight, he/him lesbian, ace-spec, slut. anarcho-monarchist. A theymab transtrender. I speak lv/en/ru but can pretend to understand other languages sometimes.

admin of this instance, don't ask for an invite unless you're a frien :3

the sadistic playful puppy you’ve been warned about.

Ionizing particles, true Ukkos, fake Erises, and Disqordians DNI

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Current PFP is Senjougahara Hitagi and Hanekawa Tsubasa, specifically by https://x.com/mani_ma/status/1973769856714760502
Previous PFP is Suzy, secret Undertale character only mentioned
Previous² PFP is Senjougahara Hitagi, specifically by https://www.tumblr.com/manimarough/785249534734417921
Previous³ PFP was dead Marsey
Previous⁴ PFP was A.B.A. from Guilty Gear Strive
Previous⁵ PFP was some image 40 sent me
Previous⁶ PFP was https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/en/product/detail/p4934054034673/
Previous⁷ PFP was https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47773488/

eriscon is not happening
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[?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
@eris@p.enes.lv

If you think lizzy is one of "the vilest of tankies", I'm sorry but you have not been on the internet, I haven't even seen her label ethnicities based on how genetically prone to fascism they are, that would deserve the label of "vilest of tankies" not having a hammer and sickle in the display name lmao. Bunch of your receipts read to me as edgy jokes. (If you're getting mad over "China please liberate Germany", idk what to say.) Yes there are a bunch of bad takes (and I could probably find even worse ones than you did), but that's all they are, personal takes or vents.

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    [?]zivi » 🌐
    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

    @eris right, in retrospect “the vilest of tankies” is an overstatement, it certainly gets worse - i just don’t usually interact with those types, for obvious reasons

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      [?]zivi » 🌐
      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

      @eris personal takes matter though! *phobes and racists have takes too! people tend to have political takes, and those political takes should not be respected if the underlying politics are those of harm - that’s as true for tankies as any other subset of fash

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        [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
        @eris@p.enes.lv

        I don't think her posts are rooted in actual harm, it's more of annoyance with the world and dialectical analysis (or whatever is the fancy word) of communist/socialist country attempts. As much harm as an anarchist posting about firebombing the local courthouse or whatever. Great thing about fedi is I can always just cut people out (by blocking them or their instances) that I don't want to see, even if this becomes a "tankie bar", I am the one in control of curating what I see

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          [?]zivi » 🌐
          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

          @eris the thing is i explicitly don’t want this becoming a tankie bar, and I want to know who my allies and enemies are in this, so that’s that

          tldr authoritarian leftism is a scam, authoritarianism implies a fascist dystopia, you can’t have a state with an iron grip on everything without systemic mistreatment

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            [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
            @eris@p.enes.lv

            tldr authoritarian leftism is a scam, authoritarianism implies a fascist dystopia, you can’t have a state with an iron grip on everything without systemic mistreatment
            Yeah, I'm from a westernized former soviet republic, I know all that. I simply disagree with the idea that banning rancid takes will make this a wholesome place, at best it'll be a hugbox.

            And I don't think it's turning into a tankie bar because, again, I can get rid of the actually harmful ones whenever I want. Genuinely, all that this witch-hunting manages to do is create a feeling that if I post the wrong take suddenly I'll be cut off from everyone because it was too red or whatever.

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              [?]zivi » 🌐
              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

              @eris banning misleading rancid takes that can cause harm down the line is the point of moderation. tankie takes and e.g. queerphobe takes are on the same playing field here

              + if you'd ban first-hand tankie propaganda (imagine the CCP getting a fedi acct - they'd be fediblocked by everyone and everything in a day (or is this wishful thinking..?)), you should be trying to counteract second-hand tankie propaganda too

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                [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                @eris@p.enes.lv

                realistically, the first-hand and second-hand propaganda is never gonna reach me, I mean sometimes i get hit with a second-hand from kolektiva.social and I have considered blocking them indeed. Lizzy is pretty far from just spewing propaganda. I don't think she's intentionally trying to mislead. What's her latest "bad take"? "Criticising foreign governments just legitimises your government attacking them"? I mean, it makes sense, I don't like how it sounds at all, but it makes sense, maybe I have only cognitive dissonance from it, or maybe there's some implied parts of it that I disagree with it, but it's a valid thought to think about, if everyone cheers for USA bombing Iran, maybe they'll try Turkey next? [Insert the "Wanna see me do it again?" Spongebob meme.]

                Important part however: did that take say or imply that people who keep criticising foreign governments should be ostracised from society, kicked from IRL meetings, blocked on fedi? Not as far as I saw, that is why, as I said before, I would prefer her on my timeline over you. I don't see any benefits from these crusades aside from cutting off people and pushing them into worse corners of fedi

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                  [?]zivi » 🌐
                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                  mindnumbing philosophizing / tankie drama [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                  @eris

                  Important part however: did that take say or imply that people who keep criticising foreign governments should be ostracised from society, kicked from IRL meetings, blocked on fedi? Not as far as I saw, that is why, as I said before, I would prefer her on my timeline over you. I don’t see any benefits from these crusades aside from cutting off people and pushing them into worse corners of fedi

                  it is implied, and i’m quite certain if one is ready to shitpost at length about this then one is ready to cut those people off

                  there are other, worser bad takes on display there btw

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                    [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                    @eris@p.enes.lv

                    guess we'll just have to entirely disagree then. thanks for the conversation

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                      [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                      @eris@p.enes.lv

                      Anyways, by my personal judgement you seem more annoying than lizzy so L+didn't even get your instance admins to fediblock her+go back to other side of fediblock wall+I'd rather the cheka execute me than have you as a neighbour

                      CC: @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

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                        [?]zivi » 🌐
                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                        @eris …thanks i guess? three insults from the mouth of a hater make one compliment, i know that much

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                          [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                          @eris@p.enes.lv

                          Cheers! 🥂

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