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GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard:

@eris@p.enes.lv

This is an alt of @Ukko@akko.disqordia.space

latvian, in their 25s, monogam, straight, he/him lesbian, ace-spec, slut. anarcho-monarchist. A theymab transtrender. I speak lv/en/ru but can pretend to understand other languages sometimes.

admin of this instance, don't ask for an invite unless you're a frien :3

the sadistic playful puppy you’ve been warned about.

Ionizing particles, true Ukkos, fake Erises, and Disqordians DNI

Minors: please consult with your parent(s)/guardian before following and/or interacting; and please do not interact with lewd and/or sexual content unless you are of the age of majority

Current PFP is Senjougahara Hitagi and Hanekawa Tsubasa, specifically by https://x.com/mani_ma/status/1973769856714760502
Previous PFP is Suzy, secret Undertale character only mentioned
Previous² PFP is Senjougahara Hitagi, specifically by https://www.tumblr.com/manimarough/785249534734417921
Previous³ PFP was dead Marsey
Previous⁴ PFP was A.B.A. from Guilty Gear Strive
Previous⁵ PFP was some image 40 sent me
Previous⁶ PFP was https://www.kotobukiya.co.jp/en/product/detail/p4934054034673/
Previous⁷ PFP was https://www.furaffinity.net/view/47773488/

eriscon is not happening
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[?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
@eris@p.enes.lv

yes i actually DDOSed Disqordia

[GIF of Walter White saying "I won"]

2 messages from eris "I knew you did it", and "You win 😅"

Alt...2 messages from eris "I knew you did it", and "You win 😅"

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[?]Fedi Circling The Drain » 🌐
@prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer

Help me pick my next dangerous hobby.

Swords:46
Motorcycle:35

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[?]魅洏烂 M.E.R. ䷔ » 🌐
@mer@yourwalls.today

@prettygood swords are cheaper and don't drink gas to keep operating
however, I voted moto

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    [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
    @eris@p.enes.lv

    Swords, but like to the point where you actually put on chainmail and then get beaten up with swords

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      [?]Fedi Circling The Drain » 🌐
      @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer

      @eris see that's a step too far, I just want to have something cool to hack at thorny vines or maybe mercifully dispatch a wounded animal.

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        [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
        @eris@p.enes.lv

        ahhh ok, still I feel like my (probably outdated) impression of you fits better as a hedge knight than a biker. i stay on swords (not like I can change my vote anyways)

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          [?]Fedi Circling The Drain » 🌐
          @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer

          @eris appearance wise I'm *definitely* closer to biker, but I can accept the warrior-poet archetype as well.

            [?]digital_star.sys 💾⭐ » 🌐
            @oracle@phantomthieves.net

            linux audio haters been real quiet ever since my pipewire crashed

            Alt...linux audio haters been real quiet ever since my pipewire crashed

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            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

            you think i am a

            ML:0
            Anarchist:0
            Liberal:0
            Demsoc:0

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            [?]chjara ☭ :emacs: :blobcat_3d_stretcher: » 🔓
            @chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz

            @lizzie We're all libs because posting on the internet is a twelfth form of liberalism.

              [?]sparrows (doll arc) :flaglesbian::neoamazonia::vriskasip: » 🔓
              @dangerdyke@social.translunar.academy

              @lizzie you put liberal on there twice

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                @azureazure@social.xenofem.me

                @dangerdyke @lizzie god fucking damnit beat me to it

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                  [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                  @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                  @azureazure @dangerdyke by literal seconds lmao

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                    [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                    @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                    @azureazure @dangerdyke anyway youre right, adding anarchist was redundant. i’ll fix it next time

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                      [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                      @azureazure @dangerdyke (demsoc appears last on the list bc i was actually on the fence about even adding it bc funni)

                        [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                        @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                        im sorry but the last option was correct 🥀 (im ngl im kinda iffy on the democratic part at times lmao)

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                          [?]shrew » 🌐
                          @shrew@oomfie.city

                          @lizzie what keeps you glued to the "democratic" position if i may ask?

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                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                            abstract politics ramble [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                            @shrew i mean ig in a socialist context id contrast a democratic approach with something that places a lot of power in the hands of a vanguard party. everyday people are kinda stupid but i don’t actually trust any group that would throw itself that deep into a system bc it wont want to be removed.

                            i dont believe there is any coherent let alone good fundamental will of the people let alone classes bc its the noise of the various intersecting systems of societies all the way down. id describe my high-level political project as one of trying to reshape systems so that the noise becomes something more closely resembling the cries of love. i hate any sort of transactionality (so like capitalism revolving around contracts sucks as do more paternalistic models). its better than just taking stuff but yeah.

                            thats all high level and i cant do much about the high level rn, but i can have principles so mostly i just care about finding ways of creating loving community.

                            tl;dr i think a vanguard-heavy approach is dead and most of the alternatives are democratic, and i dont care enough about politics to bother with being an anarchist.

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                              [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                              @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                              @shrew its hard to focus on a clear answer to your question bc honestly a lot of the stuff leftists say about how they want stuff to be organized is kinda irrelevant to my actual concerns. the real reason is it is convenient.

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                                [?]shrew » 🌐
                                @shrew@oomfie.city

                                @lizzie i think you misunderstand these concepts a little bit. democratic socialism is specifically referring to gradual reform to socialist ends under a liberal democratic system, which its worth pointing out is not really a democracy due to the way money interacts with politics. its incredibly difficult for a socialist to attain office under such a system, let alone keep it, let alone stay true to their ideals when they need money for their campaign, need support from the privately-owned media, are placed under constant personal & political pressure to shift to the right by senior party members & fellow elected officials, and are placed at the head of oppressive institutions like the police, courts, and military. hell, quite literally every reformist party to have existed either failed to address capitalism & shifted into liberalism or was overthrown!! most other strains of leftist thought, even leninism, still root themselves in forms of democracy, albeit with the exclusion of the ultra-wealthy.

                                with the vanguard party, as originally implemented in the soviet union it had an internal democratic structure, and by no means was it meant to be the only (independent) party or the only form of democracy in the state. as you point out, a big part of the problem was that for genuine democracy or socialism it would have to loosen its grip on power, but in my mind thats more a product of the despotic bureaucratic caste that eventually coalesced power within the state & whittled down the existing democratic organs within the party, worker's councils, and unions, rather than an inherent issue with a party as a political organ.

                                (not trying to start a debate or anything; just had a few thoughts on this)

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                                  [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                  @eris@p.enes.lv

                                  tried to look up chief's political beliefs but couldn't find them quick enough

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                                    [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                    @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                    @eris chief is incoherent tbh

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                                      [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                      @eris@p.enes.lv

                                      yea I assume it's "blank state" enough to allow player self-inserts

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                                        [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                        @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                        @eris oh no she is Very opinionated she just contradicts herself at various times

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                                          [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                          @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                          @eris she’s kinda fun though she’s like “oh i dont really care about politics” and didnt even vote in the last election but if you get her talking she will start going on about how much she hates conservatives and the nobility and thinks the mines in west district should be out of the hands of corporations and no level of patriotism is okay, especially in a state like discity that has a history of colonialism.

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                                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                            @eris the progressive candidate in the last election wanted her endorsement really badly and her response was “i dont think you can bring about real change even if you win” while the “centrist” was like “yeah i know you hate my guts i wont drag this conversation out”

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                                              [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                              @eris@p.enes.lv

                                              ahh i see i see, thought it was just unopinionated some occasional personality stuff that you could pick up to fit your headcanon. game book sounds interesting but yeah i'm not exactly a visual novel kinda person (I mean, it sounds like a visual novel with minigames to me). I'm already going through Love Exalt super slowly even though I enjoy it (it's just, when I sit down to game I don't exactly want to read a book right away, you know?) Personal taste ig

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                                                [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                @eris nooooo i would not be obsessed with a blank slate character lol. and yes it is a visual novel with minigames. that is exactly how id describe it

                                                  [?]Fesshole 🧻 » 🤖 🌐
                                                  @fesshole@mastodon.social

                                                  On Linux forums I, a woman, would get ignored and disrespected. These days I ask my question, then switch to a fake account to give a completely wrong answer, then switch back again to thank them and praise their Linux knowledge. The experts show up right away. Sorted.

                                                  [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                  @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

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                                                  [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                  @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                  @VerificationNotification is this a scam ?

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                                                    [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                    @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                    yeah most definitely, I saw some of these for other people (I bet I'll get one now as well now that I federate to the account)

                                                    CC: @lizzie@brain.worm.pink @VerificationNotification@defcon.social

                                                      ihme sälli boosted

                                                      [?]Tommy Swanson » 🌐
                                                      @swanson@rubber.social

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                                                      the "not to be racist or anything but asian people" vine still pops into my head every once in a while

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                                                      [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                      @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                      I just heard this in my mind lmao thanks

                                                        flower boosted

                                                        [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                        btw #fediblock social.vlhl.dev - is an instance by and for the vilest of tankies

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                                                          [?]Luci ☯⚛ » 🌐
                                                          @quantumsys@tech.lgbt

                                                          @zaire You cannot post something like this when you're mutuals with people who are mutuals with the person who runs that instance and not expect people to ask for receipts 😅

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                                                            [?]lizzy مثلية الله ☭ :heart_lesbian_diagonal2: :cuwu: » 🌐
                                                            @lizzy@social.vlhl.dev

                                                            @quantumsys @zaire its not wrong, I am a communist and so is navi, zaire dislikes communists, that's all. make your own decision based on that

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                                                              [?]Luci ☯⚛ » 🌐
                                                              @quantumsys@tech.lgbt

                                                              @lizzy @zaire If you do self-describe as 'one of the most vile tankies', even if you mean it as some kind of joke, I'll at least think you're edgy, and will feel uncomfortable around you, besides there are other things you've come out and said recently that make me not want to be around you. But that's then my decision. I don't really let others tell me who to block, if you're worried about that.

                                                              And I don't block people just 'cause they're communists.

                                                              I think we both know this is more nuanced than that. But I don't want you to feel like you're obligated to explain yourself here/now or something, cause I don't think this is an appropriate format or context for that. Like someone else recently said, I don't think division is the answer here.

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                                                                [?]lizzy مثلية الله ☭ :heart_lesbian_diagonal2: :cuwu: » 🌐
                                                                @lizzy@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                @quantumsys @zaire I don't think how I self-describe matters (I self describe as a communist), but tankie is a pejorative commonly applied to people with political beliefs such as mine. As such, I don't think my political beliefs have been misrepresented by this pejorative being applied to me. Make of that what you will, and if you think that tankie refers to a bad thing, you won't like what I have to say either, and if you think that's problematic, you can block me. For transparency, I get a lot of fedi reports from people calling me a tankie, tho about half of them are from zaire.

                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                  tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                  @quantumsys ah, just take a scroll thru her profile, you’re bound to stumble upon very questionable stuff. gonna do some of that for ya

                                                                  that’s just a week in

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                                                                    [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                    tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                    @quantumsys continuing the scroll!~

                                                                    oh look at that! we’ve reached The Crashout Thread, and it’s actually by a completely different tankie user, on a completely different (still completely fediblockable instance akko.tuxcrafting.xyz). https://akko.tuxcrafting.xyz/objects/1e335a26-fa4d-4a51-bae3-88a668a02072 . it’s still extremely relevant! for i see it boosted by lizzy

                                                                    the akko.tuxcrafting.xyz case:

                                                                    tbc

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                                                                      [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                      @nagirin@heckin.how

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                                                                      @zaire I don't even like MLs politically but you're being orders of magnitude more ridiculous than they could ever be lol

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                                                                        [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                        re: ​ [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                        @nagirin where am i being anything but commited to showing a spine

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                                                                          [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                          @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                          @zaire You're not showing a spine you're kicking and screaming online calling for the social exclusion of someone you find disagreeable. If you're genuinely so upset at their posts just block and move on.

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                                                                            [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                            @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                            @nagirin ftr: not really kicking and screaming here, just treating fash as fash

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                                                                              @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                              @zaire you're closer to fascism than the average ML with your reactionary non-communist anti-capitalism lol

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                                                                                [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                @nagirin “non-communist anti-capitalism = close to fascism” is strange logic, we in the biz just call that anarchism

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                                                                                  [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                  @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                  @zaire anarchism is a reactionary political movement

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                                                                                    [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                    @nagirin yea no fuck off lol

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                                                                                      [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                      @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                      @zaire scary, someone pushes against you!!

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                                                                                        [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                        @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                        @zaire maybe try building your politics around something more than moralising and the cult of action

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                                                                                          [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                          @nagirin don’t you know words are supposed to have meaning

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                                                                                            [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                            @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                            @zaire both of those things have very clear meanings

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                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                              @nagirin okay well how about you tell me those meanings because i’m not a marxolenist i ain’t reading 10 books about each of them just so i can engage in a 10 minute debate that’s sure to end in us being blockuals

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                                                                                                @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                                @zaire I'm not a Marxist, those are not Marxist phrases. You do not need to read 10 books to know what moralising means :neobot_upside_down:

                                                                                                But okay sure. Moralising is when you build political opinions and ideas mostly on purely on morals, we should help the poor because it's the right thing to do, type stuff. Morals themselves are fine, but the issue with moralising politics is that people can just disagree. So you end up with wet mop politics and an inability to actually advocate for anything.

                                                                                                Cult of action is the fetishisation many have for "doing things", union organisation, sabotage, striking, political parties, etc. I am not completely disregarding them, but many leftists see these thing as supreme and moralise the participation in these activities as an imperative.

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                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                  @nagirin aaaand how are those things wrong?

                                                                                                  morals are at the core of politics

                                                                                                  good morals = leftist, bad morals = fash. if people consistently “just disagree” with doing the right thing, their morals are scuffed and shouldn’t be considered, it’s that simple

                                                                                                  action is at the core of anything happening

                                                                                                  if we don’t do anything, nothing will happen; nothing does not include society improving somewhat

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                                                                                                    [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                                    @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                                    @zaire What birthes morals? Morals didn't drop from the sky, nor were they reasoned to by you as a free agent. Morals are build around millennia of human society. And as such the morals that you, and everyone hold, are tainted by oppressive class society.

                                                                                                    Morals are a social construct and a social webbing that we partake in, one cannot declare themselves emancipated from morals. This is important because the morals of society at large mostly exist to uphold the society we already have. You may not like to be told this, but I and your morals are like >90% based on western Abrahamic traditions, and removing ourselves from that is nigh impossible.

                                                                                                    I think the issue is clear, basing political action and thought on a moral system so corrupted and tainted by the society you already exist within will therefore taint the political beliefs that you form.

                                                                                                    You cannot emancipate yourself from morals, as I said. But you can not put them on the centre of your political reasoning and try to limit your dependance on them politically.

                                                                                                    And also, no, there are no such thing as good and bad morals, there is no objective morality, even if you follow a religion where such is the case, e.g. Christianity, people of other religions will just, disagree. Surely you do not have the arrogance to play cosmic moral judge, not to mention the arrogance of beliving the morals you hold happen to be the "right ones".

                                                                                                    Cult of action is problematic specifically because it builds on the idae of the sovereign individual. That we are free agents able to act without being tethered by our circumstance and material condition. The currents of history does not bow to a king that declares himself ruler of the tides. And political motions of the world do not depend on the actions of individuals. I don't expect you to agree on this point, just sharing my viewpoint.

                                                                                                    I am not against improving society, but that doesn't come from a supreme internal "drive" in me and other people of action. It comes because people are moved to action by the conditions they exist within.

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                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                      @nagirin but you have to agree, murdering people because they disagree with you is bad, murdering people who’re trans or otherwise marginalized because you feel like it is bad, etc. of course, transphobes will Just Disagree, but that doesn’t mean their opinions are valid

                                                                                                      That we are free agents able to act without being tethered by our circumstance and material condition.

                                                                                                      it’s neither here nor there

                                                                                                      of course we’re all tethered by our circumstance, but that doesn’t mean we can’t do anything to dismantle the oppressive systems we’re being forced into from the inside. organized strikes and sabotage do that. please don’t nihilism away the fact that when people do things, things happen, and insofar as a society is concerned things can’t really happen without people doing things

                                                                                                      a random given individual is unlikely to be able to cause drastic shifts in history on their own, but many small actions or many people combined are what steers the world

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                                                                                                        [?]miko » 🔓
                                                                                                        @miko@sns.myxoz.net

                                                                                                        @zaire @nagirin

                                                                                                        transphobes will Just Disagree, but that doesn’t mean their opinions are valid

                                                                                                        the transphobes view their opinions as valid though

                                                                                                        please don’t nihilism away the fact that when people do things, things happen, and insofar as a society is concerned things can’t really happen without people doing things

                                                                                                        claiming that historical materialism is nihilistic is certainly one of the takes of all time

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                                                                                                          [?]★ 凪鈴 (old alt | サブ垢) » 🔓
                                                                                                          @nagirin@heckin.how

                                                                                                          @miko @zaire That's exactly such a key thing!! Everyone thinks their morals are the right ones. We can poke and laugh at transphobes for being wrong and wicked but they do the same to us, that's fundamentally the issue with moralism!

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                                                                                                            [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                            @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                            @nagirin @miko doesn’t mean we shouldn’t poke and laugh at transphobes

                                                                                                            embrace acting based on subjective opinions. that’s fine. trying to be objective or dare i say it “apolitical” is worse

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                                                                                                              [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                              @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                              @zaire @nagirin @miko we should act on subjective opinions to good effect. deriving principles rather than acting on pure impulse is generally a good idea. making fedi even more of a fragmented, isolated hellscape is a bad outcome you should avoid contributing to if unneeded

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                                                                                                                @azureazure@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @quantumsys what is it with yall not being able to not like people and instead jumping to outright posting receipts of someone you literally dont even know look at yourself dawg

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                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                  re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                  @azureazure @quantumsys that’s part of the not liking when it gets intense enough

                                                                                                                  fash should not be given the time of day is the thing

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                                                                                                                    @azureazure@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                    re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @quantumsys who the fuck is "fash" here? some girl with a hammer & sickle in the display name that shitposts about wanting xi jinping to liberate germany and forcefem is a fascist to you? you're the glowiest glowie to ever glow

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                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                      re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                      @azureazure @quantumsys ha, this might make my title list

                                                                                                                      albeit i don’t see why a glowie would be bothering to engage in a shitshow like this on fedi

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                                                                                                                        [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                        re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                        @azureazure @quantumsys

                                                                                                                        some girl with a hammer & sickle in the display name that shitposts about wanting xi jinping to liberate germany and forcefem is a fascist to you

                                                                                                                        posts made in jest still carry meaning m’foe

                                                                                                                        those shitposts carry harmful meaning

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                                                                                                                          [?]maive » 🔓
                                                                                                                          @winterklaus@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                          re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @azureazure @quantumsys by all means continue to be a humourless liberal poasting warrior im sure the world will be a better place, just one more pointless social exclusion, just one more then the world will be pure of degener- uhh i mean... problematic individuals . gawd who teaches people to be this annoying in 2026. the anti-communist (read: liberal fascism) brainrot is intense

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                                                                                                                            [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🌐
                                                                                                                            @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                            re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@winterklaus @zaire @azureazure @quantumsys its crazy how in the big 26 we have a million self-identified anarchist mini-cops calling for more rules and restrictions on everyone and more restrictions to what speech is allowed and saying that actually criticising fascist invasions is the real fascism that we need to crack down and ban (just democraticly this time).

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                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                              re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                              @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys go google “xkcd free speech” for me i cant be bothered

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                                                                                                                                [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🌐
                                                                                                                                @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys the xkcd free speech meme is the exact same logic US universities use to arrest pro-palestine protestors and twitter uses to ban people who oppose the new ameri‎can fascist movement, and its the same thing youre doing to argue that opposing the illegal overthrow of governments by fascists is the real fascism.

                                                                                                                                This endless idea that censorship is good and cool as long as we can call it anything but censorship is ridiculous.

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                                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                  re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                  @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys

                                                                                                                                  youre doing to argue that opposing the illegal overthrow of governments by fascists is the real fascism

                                                                                                                                  i’m not trying to argue that lmfao

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                                                                                                                                    [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🌐
                                                                                                                                    @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                    re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys one of the posts you highlighted as tankie that you were calling fascist was literally just "Free Maduro", very funny also that you mixed forcefem kink posts in as further evidence of "fascism"

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                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                      re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                      @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys forcefem is basically conversion therapy as a haha funny joke, and if you think those posts are in the context of a kink you’re shitting yourself ngl

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                                                                                                                                        [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🌐
                                                                                                                                        @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                        re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @azureazure @winterklaus @quantumsys

                                                                                                                                        i didnt even bother reading them because its so clearly just completely ridiculous, I have a very open sex-negative stance on here and I even I wouldn't accuse someone of being a fascist and bring up dumb kink posts as reasons why they should be societally exhiled and blocked by everyone.

                                                                                                                                        I don't understand why you're wasting your own and everyone else's time on here with ridiculous hitpieces on random people. I think maybe you should talk behind closed doors to this person if you personally don't like them, rather than making it everyone else's problem.

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                                                                                                                                          [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                          @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                          re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @azureazure @quantumsys @winterklaus ok i've read them, how is making fun of a guy calling lgbt people "scumbags" fascist? why did you even bother including this?

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                                                                                                                                            [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                            @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                            re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@azureazure @quantumsys @winterklaus @zaire actually, how old are you even? because if you're 16 or around that age all bad takes are forgiven, I understand completely and also no longer have any interest in arguing with you

                                                                                                                                              [?]perrito swagito (maligno) 💯 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                              @swagpuppy420@little.tinypuppy.dog

                                                                                                                                              re: tankie discussion & links to unhinged takes [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @quantumsys germany deserves regime change #FuckNATO #TheyreStillNazis

                                                                                                                                                [?]navi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                ... [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @quantumsys nothing of this warrants a instance wide fediblock

                                                                                                                                                those kinds of campaigns just creates pain, gives me a lot of anxiety, breaks the network, and causes chaos for no reason -- can you not, just block her account yourself and move on

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                                                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                  @navi @quantumsys the instance seems to be ran entirely by and for tankies aka pseudo-left fash i’d say an instance-wide block or limit is just as appropriate as it is for any other fash instance

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                                                                                                                                                    [?]navi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                    @navi@social.vlhl.dev

                                                                                                                                                    @zaire @quantumsys even if that premise is to be accepted, which it's not and do not call me fascist, i don't post anything related to socio political nor economics

                                                                                                                                                    so what do you have against me except "guilty by association"?

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                                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                      @navi @quantumsys you may not be loud about it on this account, but you are a tankie, aren’t you? and i believe the principle of not letting “good” fash into your bar either applies here too

                                                                                                                                                      i am strictly opposed to letting nazis (tankies) into the bar (fedi) lest it become a nazi bar

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                                                                                                                                                        [?]flower » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                        @flower@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                        @zaire we need real and effective anti-imperialist resistance we need to boycott israeli hummus even harder

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                                                                                                                                                          [?]adzuki "toes" bean ch. 🇨🇳 :wormkisser: :labrysSickle: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                          @coolbean@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                          @flower @zaire only lebanese hummus in my household (i have never had hummus in my entire life)

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                                                                                                                                                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

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                                                                                                                                                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                            @zaire i personally have found the users of that instance annoying on occasion. i have no idea how this deserves instance defederation let alone encouraging other instances to do the same

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                                                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                              @lizzie the gist of it is, if you do a little scrolling there are some really nasty tankie takes circulating on there and adjacent instances, not the sort we should be tolerating

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                                                                                                                                                                [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                @zaire we’re defederating people for bad takes now??

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                                                                                                                                                                  [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                  @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire ive seen the takes you linked. im annoyed by some of them. i have no idea how this deserves anything more than a personal block

                                                                                                                                                                    [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                    @lizzie in activitypub civilization everything is a take

                                                                                                                                                                    everyone everywhere has takes, good people have takes, bad people have takes, nuking bad & harmful takes is kind of the point of moderation

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                                                                                                                                                                      [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire not everything on fedi is a take. there are also things like targeted harassment and other stuff that leaves people feeling genuinely unsafe. i had people in my mentions telling a friend of mine to kill herself for being trans. there are people actually trying to take advantage of minors. there are serious things for moderators to deal with, not being the bad take police.

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                                                                                                                                                                        [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                        @lizzie okay but getting rid of harmful takes is part of it

                                                                                                                                                                        else we wouldn’t be defederating infamous nazi bars until we see targeted harassment coming from them which would be absurd

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                                                                                                                                                                          [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                          @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire i mean i mentioned there are other things that leave people feeling unsafe but like, annoying takes is so far from that threshold. if theyre clogging your timeline i can see it ig.

                                                                                                                                                                          you mentioned good people have takes and bad people have takes and i find that really concerning.
                                                                                                                                                                          like

                                                                                                                                                                          • “good people and bad people” is a stupid concept
                                                                                                                                                                          • do you think moderation is for punishing bad people?

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                                                                                                                                                                            [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                            @lizzie bad people (read: queerphobes, racists, etc - fash) are to be deplatformed

                                                                                                                                                                            yes, i’m pretty set in my ways here, we shouldn’t platform fash, we shouldn’t be trying to be apolitical

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                                                                                                                                                                              [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                              @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire okay and the people you’re talking about are not in your bad person category

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                                                                                                                                                                                [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                @lizzie tankies are fash

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                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                  @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire no theyre fucking not lmao

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                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                    @lizzie yes theyre fucking yes lmao

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                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire actual fascists often pose a safety threat bc they have a potential to harass and dox people they dont like (which tends to include those who are queer and outspoken as racial minorities) does some tgirl tankie pose this threat?

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                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                        @lizzie case in point, i don’t want tankie/ml/whatever brainrot spreading across fedi -
                                                                                                                                                                                        so many people jumping into this thread to defend tankies in a sympthom of that; opinions on the internet can and do propagate, and do cause harm down the road

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                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                          @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire so i present a legitimate cause for concern and safety and ask if a tgirl tankie would be as big of a problem and you present people agreeing with her as the big scary threat?

                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                            @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire @lizzie I may be a "tankie" but after the revolution I'll be an anarchist and you'll still be a liberal

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                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                              @patchuun @lizzie what the fuck is this word salad supposed to mean

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                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire @lizzie I'm calling you a liberal but being a little cheeky about it

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                  @patchuun @lizzie do you know what a liberal is

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]flower » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                    @flower@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                    @zaire @lizzie @patchuun a sort of left wing fascist

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                      @flower @lizzie @patchuun “left wing fascist” is tankie; liberals aka shitlibs aka centrofash are centrist fascists

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                        @flower @lizzie @patchuun left wing not fascist is socialist or anarchist if you’re extra based about it

                                                                                                                                                                                                        socialist is kind of a muddy term tbh, but it’s less tankie-coded than communist

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                          @patchuun @lizzie i’m certainly not a liberal but i know coming from a marxofash “liberal” can mean basically anything

                                                                                                                                                                                                          this rock is a liberal

                                                                                                                                                                                                          the sky is a liberal

                                                                                                                                                                                                          etc

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire @patchuun you cannot be saying this after redefining fash to mean everyone who disagrees with you

                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                              @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire @lizzie a liberal is someone who supports the liberal status quo. some liberals think of themselves as anarchsts, but in truth are often mired in a "both sides are bad" enlightened centrism that just so happens to perfectly align with amerikkkan foreign policy positions, informed by decades of CIA anticommunist propaganda, marked by a refusal to unlearn this propaganda. You would no doubt have hated Martin Luther King for being a "tankie"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                @patchuun @lizzie my side is good and all the other sides are bad

                                                                                                                                                                                                                there you go i’m not a liberal

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire @lizzie that's the liberal centrist line yes, "everyone but me is bad" (thus when the amerikkkan bad guys win, it's still okay and good, because the tankie bad guys lost). It's simplistic and myopic

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @patchuun @lizzie what’s your point

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    if it’s that i’m somehow a magastan apologist because i’m not a tankie then just say that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    cus like, first you say “both sides are bad” is liberal, then you say the opposite of that is liberal. as ive said ig everything is liberal. the sky is liberal. liberal is the tankie version of woke

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire @patchuun how is “everyone but me is bad” the opposite of both sides are bad?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire @lizzie who were the bad guys in the amerikkkan revolution? was it the crown, or the colonists? or was it, purrhaps, the indigenous peoples and the enslaved Africans, whose continued oppression played a major motivating role for the colonists (and who sometimes, very understandably, allied themselves with the crown, against their captors!)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @patchuun @lizzie there can always be several bad guys, at different degrees of bad, in this case it’s pretty clear the indigenous and enslaved people are the victims, not anyone’s harassers

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire @lizzie correct. so, when the colonists won the war, would you have been happy about it, because "republicanism is a lesser evil than monarchism"? Or would you maybe think that, actually, it's not good that a bunch of slavers won, and maybe it would have bode better for the enslaved and indigenous had the settler-colonial state never gained legitimacy?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            This is dialectical and historical materialism, the backbone of Marxist analysis: focusing on how each thing exists in relation to another, where and how power is distributed, and how the scales of power can be tipped to facilitate a truly libratory politic of class struggle

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @patchuun @lizzie yea okay i don’t see at all how this is supposed to relate to, whatever the fuck the previous points in the “discussion” were

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire @lizzie you don't see the parallels between parroting the US party line on its "revolution", and parroting the US party line on Venezuela, Iran, and China? (and hell, while we're at it, on Cuba, the USSR, the DPRK...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @patchuun @lizzie where am i parroting either

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @zaire @lizzie having any problem with "free maduro" for starters. The guy was kidnapped in an illegal invasion by the world's largest imperial power. Condemning him is like condemning Hamas. Do you do that too?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @patchuun @lizzie again, you can condemn both, and if you feel america is the only party in this shitstorm worth condemning, you’re severely misinformed at best

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire @lizzie you literally cannot condemn Maduro in the context of amerikkka kidnapping him without aligning yourself with amerikkka and implicitly endorsing said kidnapping, sorry. Look at what every other US-backed coup in socialist countries has ended in (spoiler: far right military dictatorship) and recognize that you are running defense for fascism.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @patchuun @lizzie i can and i will condemn maduro for having ran an authoritarian fascist(-adjacent) state for decades sorry that’s the rules authoritarian chucklefucks get condemned here

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          you think this means i love trumpmenistan? lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          that’s exactly where black and white thinking is unhelpful

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire @lizzie mkay, well, that's your prerogative I guess, but I hope someday you'll realize you don't exist in a vacuum and the function of this rhetoric is to manufacture consent for amerikkkan warmongering (as demonstrated by the attacks on Iran, which I guess youre probably cool with as well, since Khamenei was also a "fascist" and Iran needed a regime change, and if the US happened to be the ones to do it, well, so be it...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @patchuun @lizzie you keep pulling the implication i’m pro-USian out of your ass lol

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire @patchuun hello, yxnk here, “USian” is offensive to amerikkkxns. think before you speak

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @lizzie it certainly isnt very anti-USian to be okay with the US attacking and forcing regime change in other countries on the grounds that "their leader was bad". I don't see how this is being "pulled out of my ass". The purpose of a system is what it does and the function of this rhetoric is, again, to manufacture consent for amerikkkan warmongering

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]Locked Librarian :labrys-45-sickle: :cacomf: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @patchuun@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@zaire @lizzie also, you shouldn't call countries you don't like "[thing]stan", it plays into anti-arab sentiment

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@patchuun @lizzie @zaire calling ameri‎ca burgeristan is my god given right actually

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]chjara ☭ :emacs: :blobcat_3d_stretcher: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @chjara@akko.tuxcrafting.xyz

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @lizzie @zaire @patchuun Yeah, -istan as a suffix is fine I think. "Trumpmenistan" however really gives off "what are we, a bunch of Asians" vibe.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@chjara @lizzie @zaire @patchuun amending this to burgershire so its more like "what are we, a bunch of anglos" instead

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @zaire @patchuun im unironically going to start using this

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @patchuun @zaire well like, partially ironically but im not ironically saying im going to start using this

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]irredeemable urban blockhead » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @apophis@yourwalls.today

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                re: dead end argument with tankies [SENSITIVE CONTENT]@FiringSquadsEnjoyer @chjara @lizzie @zaire @patchuun given the way the UK is this might be more accurate

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]Emmy 🏳️‍⚧️🇵🇸 » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @emmy@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire Personally I don't like china or communism in general, but uhh, your reaction seems disappropriate? Do you go around asking for a fediblock for every instance that has a US military veteran? The US military is directly responsible for a lot of death and suffering, and some of it is even very recent.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]irredeemable urban blockhead » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @apophis@yourwalls.today

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @emmy @zaire
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    > Do you go around asking for a fediblock for every instance that has a US military veteran?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    damn i remember those posts 💀

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @apophis @emmy ok wait that’as a subpost to elsething?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      i do agree in a context as specified there to ask for a fediblock on the whole instance would be very silly

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]irredeemable urban blockhead » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @apophis@yourwalls.today

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @zaire @emmy a couple years ago there was another fedi schism over a guy who was involved in numerous fedi-adjacent projects who was also a member of the US air force

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        not long before that folks bullied off of fed another random single user instance guy who never harassed or stalked anybody but also didn't hide the fact that he was a cop in his day job

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          If you think lizzy is one of "the vilest of tankies", I'm sorry but you have not been on the internet, I haven't even seen her label ethnicities based on how genetically prone to fascism they are, that would deserve the label of "vilest of tankies" not having a hammer and sickle in the display name lmao. Bunch of your receipts read to me as edgy jokes. (If you're getting mad over "China please liberate Germany", idk what to say.) Yes there are a bunch of bad takes (and I could probably find even worse ones than you did), but that's all they are, personal takes or vents.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @eris right, in retrospect “the vilest of tankies” is an overstatement, it certainly gets worse - i just don’t usually interact with those types, for obvious reasons

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @eris personal takes matter though! *phobes and racists have takes too! people tend to have political takes, and those political takes should not be respected if the underlying politics are those of harm - that’s as true for tankies as any other subset of fash

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think her posts are rooted in actual harm, it's more of annoyance with the world and dialectical analysis (or whatever is the fancy word) of communist/socialist country attempts. As much harm as an anarchist posting about firebombing the local courthouse or whatever. Great thing about fedi is I can always just cut people out (by blocking them or their instances) that I don't want to see, even if this becomes a "tankie bar", I am the one in control of curating what I see

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @eris the thing is i explicitly don’t want this becoming a tankie bar, and I want to know who my allies and enemies are in this, so that’s that

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  tldr authoritarian leftism is a scam, authoritarianism implies a fascist dystopia, you can’t have a state with an iron grip on everything without systemic mistreatment

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    tldr authoritarian leftism is a scam, authoritarianism implies a fascist dystopia, you can’t have a state with an iron grip on everything without systemic mistreatment
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah, I'm from a westernized former soviet republic, I know all that. I simply disagree with the idea that banning rancid takes will make this a wholesome place, at best it'll be a hugbox.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And I don't think it's turning into a tankie bar because, again, I can get rid of the actually harmful ones whenever I want. Genuinely, all that this witch-hunting manages to do is create a feeling that if I post the wrong take suddenly I'll be cut off from everyone because it was too red or whatever.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @eris banning misleading rancid takes that can cause harm down the line is the point of moderation. tankie takes and e.g. queerphobe takes are on the same playing field here

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      + if you'd ban first-hand tankie propaganda (imagine the CCP getting a fedi acct - they'd be fediblocked by everyone and everything in a day (or is this wishful thinking..?)), you should be trying to counteract second-hand tankie propaganda too

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        realistically, the first-hand and second-hand propaganda is never gonna reach me, I mean sometimes i get hit with a second-hand from kolektiva.social and I have considered blocking them indeed. Lizzy is pretty far from just spewing propaganda. I don't think she's intentionally trying to mislead. What's her latest "bad take"? "Criticising foreign governments just legitimises your government attacking them"? I mean, it makes sense, I don't like how it sounds at all, but it makes sense, maybe I have only cognitive dissonance from it, or maybe there's some implied parts of it that I disagree with it, but it's a valid thought to think about, if everyone cheers for USA bombing Iran, maybe they'll try Turkey next? [Insert the "Wanna see me do it again?" Spongebob meme.]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Important part however: did that take say or imply that people who keep criticising foreign governments should be ostracised from society, kicked from IRL meetings, blocked on fedi? Not as far as I saw, that is why, as I said before, I would prefer her on my timeline over you. I don't see any benefits from these crusades aside from cutting off people and pushing them into worse corners of fedi

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mindnumbing philosophizing / tankie drama [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @eris

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Important part however: did that take say or imply that people who keep criticising foreign governments should be ostracised from society, kicked from IRL meetings, blocked on fedi? Not as far as I saw, that is why, as I said before, I would prefer her on my timeline over you. I don’t see any benefits from these crusades aside from cutting off people and pushing them into worse corners of fedi

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          it is implied, and i’m quite certain if one is ready to shitpost at length about this then one is ready to cut those people off

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          there are other, worser bad takes on display there btw

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            guess we'll just have to entirely disagree then. thanks for the conversation

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Anyways, by my personal judgement you seem more annoying than lizzy so L+didn't even get your instance admins to fediblock her+go back to other side of fediblock wall+I'd rather the cheka execute me than have you as a neighbour

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]zivi » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @zaire@fedi.absturztau.be

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @eris …thanks i guess? three insults from the mouth of a hater make one compliment, i know that much

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Cheers! 🥂

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]NANCY COMICS BY BUSHMILLER » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @nancycomics@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nancy By Ernie Bushmiller
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    March 03,1944

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]glitter lollipop » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @glitter@bbs.kawa-kun.com

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    do men actually like when the thigh highs are a little tight because it always makes me feel fat and ugly

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think I'm not allowed to answer to this because I disagree with the "fat -> ugly" implication

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]jenbanim » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @jenbanim@mastodo.neoliber.al

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The bathtub curve, but for tech literacy

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      A graph meme. The two axes are labeled "How much you know about technology" and "Likelihood everything in your house is broken". The line forms a U-shape. The left side reads "I deleted the Edge icon how do I internet?". The right side reads "The fan on my raspberry Pi broke causing it to overheat and turn off breaking pihole and our home internet while my wife was working and now I have to sleep on the couch"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt...A graph meme. The two axes are labeled "How much you know about technology" and "Likelihood everything in your house is broken". The line forms a U-shape. The left side reads "I deleted the Edge icon how do I internet?". The right side reads "The fan on my raspberry Pi broke causing it to overheat and turn off breaking pihole and our home internet while my wife was working and now I have to sleep on the couch"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]Alexis » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @LexYeen@plush.city

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      An anthropomorphic smiley face emoji character with detached cartoon glove hands and cartoon shoe feet looking directly into the fourth wall. One eyebrow is cocked disapprovingly, both gloves aren't quite fists but they're close, and it isn't smiling. Text caption follows: "Furries should be treated like animals 🔫😆😂" so treated with love and kindness? or do you abuse your animals?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Alt...An anthropomorphic smiley face emoji character with detached cartoon glove hands and cartoon shoe feet looking directly into the fourth wall. One eyebrow is cocked disapprovingly, both gloves aren't quite fists but they're close, and it isn't smiling. Text caption follows: "Furries should be treated like animals 🔫😆😂" so treated with love and kindness? or do you abuse your animals?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      on a them porn games?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]elizabeth worm🔅:wormverified: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @lizzie@brain.worm.pink

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      most of ptn parma is some evil mastermind controlling the city’s political system, unleashing disasters, and grinding orphans

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      and then you see back in time a few decades and he’s just some guy going “nooooooo i wanted to do evil rituals you cant take my flower i need that for rituals :((“

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Undertale Alphys

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]Guiles boat post » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @Guiles@clubcyberia.co

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @lizzie one a them porn games?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]Fedi Circling The Drain » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @prettygood@socially.drinkingatmy.computer

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Boosting a post someone makes telling people to defederate you is royal shit, take your crown.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]N33R "Herbeiführen einer Sprengstoffexplosion" ⚸ 🩸 :lesbian: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @N33R@fops.cloud

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]paula8 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @paula8@netzsphaere.xyz


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]N33R "Herbeiführen einer Sprengstoffexplosion" ⚸ 🩸 :lesbian: » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @N33R@fops.cloud

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @N33R it's crazy how tumblr mfs literally just invent discourse

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @N33R how does anyone even arrive the take this is arguing against, how does anyone take it seriously enough to bother writing a post arguing against it instead of just being rude to the original person

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I wonder if the nudity take was even real or if it was just a "would be cool if ppl could tag nudity as nudity" that this poster blew out of proportion

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              CC: @N33R@fops.cloud

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                [?]#CastratisForClavicular » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @FiringSquadsEnjoyer@social.xenofem.me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                @eris @N33R imo it might have been a thing where every consideration of basic etiquette and politeness is disregarded in certain spaces online unless it can be shown that it negatively impacts a minority group, so "please dont post unCWed porn on the timeline constantly because i don't like looking at it" has to become "please don't post unCWed porn on the timeline constantly because it could make trans people dysphoric about their bodies" for the people posting the stuff to actually listen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]vaartis of the ratular bells » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Your guardian angel (with a sniper rifle) is watching over your shoulder

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  [?]sanek » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @sanek@outerheaven.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  @vaartis What's on my other shoulder?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    [?]vaartis of the ratular bells » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    @sanek big blue man that punches your enemies

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      [?]sanek » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @sanek@outerheaven.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @vaartis Oh hell yeah he's with me

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        [?]GNUkko Sauvage (eris-ng) :neorenard: » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        @eris@p.enes.lv

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        close range guardian angel

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        CC: @sanek@outerheaven.club

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          [?]vaartis of the ratular bells » 🔓
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          @eris @sanek well since he's on the other shoulder he's kind the devil i guess instead of an angel, but he still helps you

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Natasha :mastodon:🇪🇺 » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Pho-dog-rapher (with a Canon K-9)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A black labrador's head with a long snoot is held by a woman like an SLR camera.

The photo has been edited to include the word Canon on its head and a round red circle on its nose makes it appear very similar to a camera.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...A black labrador's head with a long snoot is held by a woman like an SLR camera. The photo has been edited to include the word Canon on its head and a round red circle on its nose makes it appear very similar to a camera.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]Marek Fořt » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @marekfort@mastodon.online

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Wait what, you can't use a *code* editor when you're under 18 now? 🤔

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ToS changes of Zed, including the new 18+ requirement.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...ToS changes of Zed, including the new 18+ requirement.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            [?]ihme sälli » 🌐
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @jonossaseuraava@post.ebin.club

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            @marekfort

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            advanced c++ is dangerous for people under 18 year old. regars google gemini.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Alt...advanced c++ is dangerous for people under 18 year old. regars google gemini.

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